photos and story of last weekends trip to URE

[Jamescad04]

I know if I were in that position I would have done the same thing, as I'm sure the rest of you would as well. He is a smart guy and very resourceful and does whatever he has to do in order to get home, not many people have that kind of skill or courage to do this. I give him props all day long for this and I know he is a stand up guy.

[Burrellsjeep]

Originally Posted by Ghost

Lets be honest here though, I would bet that it was taken to URE beat to a snot then left abandoned like had been done before. IIRC there use to be a FSJ at the base of the big hill climb on Dutch John. I have also heard of this happening on several occasions. I would not call his story braging but more of this is what happened to me I learned not to wheel alone from it.

Originally Posted by UNCC_99XJ

Looking at that Jeep again, it appears to be abandoned. No tags (required for any vehicle that drives on any of the roads in UNF...also indicates that it wasn't left the night before while the owner was attempting to locate help), and doesn't appear to have been the type of Jeep that was a trailer queen (typically they're hacked up a decent amount to clear the tires and other crap that makes them no longer streetable). Not to mention if it was a trailer queen, it wouldn't have been left behind when it broke anyways....isn't that the point of trailering it?

Your assuming the Jeep is abandoned as did everyone else that came upon it. If I left my Jeep I would pull the tag, so it wouldn't be stolen also. Regardless taking parts off and Abandon or stolen Jeep is illegal period.

Originally Posted by Ghost

He also said he was told about it he did not come apon it.

How does this make any difference

Originally Posted by Jamescad04

I know if I were in that position I would have done the same thing, as I'm sure the rest of you would as well. He is a smart guy and very resourceful and does whatever he has to do in order to get home, not many people have that kind of skill or courage to do this. I give him props all day long for this and I know he is a stand up guy.

If I steal food to feed my family, it is still stealing correct? Doesn't make it any better. I am not questioning the type of person he is, but the actions that he has taken.

How do you think this would look on the six o'clock news?

It pisses me off to see people use the forest land to dump a stolen vehicle or abandon one they no longer want, If that was the case. But instead of hearing "we found a XJ left for dead and contacted the rangers" its "Well again as luck would have it, there "just so happened" to be an abandoned XJ" what would happen if the ranger had pulled up when they were removing the springs.

It really not my issue, so I will get off my soap box. Just hoping it works out for the best for him.

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by Burrellsjeep

Your assuming the Jeep is abandoned as did everyone else that came upon it. If I left my Jeep I would pull the tag, so it wouldn't be stolen also. Regardless taking parts off and Abandon or stolen Jeep is illegal period.

I would not remove my tag bc I would not leave my jeep like that. I have only been wheeling like this since about 2002 but in those years and wheeling places like Tellico, Harlan, Morris Mountain, Callantee, and Uwharrie I have never had to nor has anyone I have been with had to leave a vehicle for more then the time it takes to go get the parts to get it off the trail.

[Burrellsjeep]

Originally Posted by Ghost

I would not remove my tag bc I would not leave my jeep like that. I have only been wheeling like this since about 2002 but in those years and wheeling places like Tellico, Harlan, Morris Mountain, Callantee, and Uwharrie I have never had to nor has anyone I have been with had to leave a vehicle for more then the time it takes to go get the parts to get it off the trail.

Great I am glad to hear that.

Lets say someone stole it and left it there, So at that point its fair game to take what you want?

[Ghost]

Originally Posted by Burrellsjeep

Great I am glad to hear that.

Lets say someone stole it and left it there, So at that point its fair game to take what you want?

I never said that only said that I know joshooha and know that he would do whats right. If its return the spring he borrowed to get home I'm sure he would do it. I guess you have never done nothing wrong?

[Burrellsjeep]

Originally Posted by Ghost

I never said that only said that I know joshooha and know that he would do whats right. If its return the spring he borrowed to get home I'm sure he would do it. I guess you have never done nothing wrong?

Oh lots of times and I learned from them the hard way.

Like I said I am not saying he is a bad person by any means, I am wanting people to understand that its not ok to remove parts from a rig that is not theres or that they haven't been oked to do so by said owner of rig.

This thread was stating that as long as its a must do than its ok.

[UNCC_99XJ]

Originally Posted by Burrellsjeep

Your assuming the Jeep is abandoned as did everyone else that came upon it. If I left my Jeep I would pull the tag, so it wouldn't be stolen also.

Really? If my Jeep ever breaks in Uwharrie I certainly wouldn't pull the tag. My Jeep would also only be sitting just long enough for me to get to parts house to gather the things necessary to fix it. Then again I also don't wheel alone, so there'd probably be somebody there to watch it, or more likely we'd come up with a solution to tow it safely back to our camp site.

Never the less, this thread is headed downhill quickly. If you'd like to continue the argument, feel free to PM me.

[XJfreakHO]

So just because you wouldn't do it means someone who obviously doesnt have much experience (Stocker) wouldn't do it.

Burrells point is, this is something that cannot be condoned, not 1 of you said "hey stealing parts is wrong" Hell, My XJ sat on my land untouched for months, does that mean its okay for you to come steal parts just because its been sitting for a while.

I understand trail fixes, and I understand the need to get home, but that doesn't make stealing parts right, under any circumstances.

[Cnickgo]

Everyone gets the point that taking the leaf spring was wrong/against the law.

The new point is people who have met Josh knows he is a good honest guy and that he will correct his actions in a responsible manner as necessary.

I don't think this thread needs to continue any longer and further the character defamation. Everyone's point has been made, leave it alone and go back to your preferred forum unless there is NEW constructive discussion.

[Burrellsjeep]

Went back and reread what I posted to begin with, and I went about this all wrong. Didn't intend to try and call anyone out, Sorry about that.

I see now how that was wrong and I should have done it in a completely different way.

Josh, sorry if I came off the wrong way. Got a little narrow minded there and I apologize for that.

Its kinda like one of the those moments where your standing back and watching something and you think I need to say something, But in reality you should have thought it though a little more before saying something. I had one of those moments.

Again I am sorry for the way I came across.

[BIGWOODY]

Post number 5....the clean up.

[bigalpha]

The Jeep is obviously in terrible shape. I would even be willing to bet that any insurance company would total that - with or without that one leaf spring.

That being said - we all know that taking things without asking is wrong and sometimes illegal. Sometimes, however, there's nobody that gives a flying ffffffff.

[Joshooha]

well guys I'm finally able to get to a computer and I'm glad to see you all have opinions (though some may be narrow minded, they are still valid opinions). Thanks to all my buds that defended me through the ignorance being portrayed here.

The point of me starting this thread was to not brag or boast about "stealing" parts. It was suppose to inspire some of you unexperienced guys to use your head to get your broken rig off the trail. I was hoping to hear some other stories about how some of you got your broken rig off the trail, but some didn't quite get that point apparently.

As for this XJ, I actually debated overnight before taking the spring (thanks for making me feel like a complete piece of crap for doing it by the way). Over the course of the night I had 3 different people stop by where I was on the trail head asking if I needed help and each one told me about this XJ, and each one of them had about the same story as to why it was there.

From what I gathered the reason it was there was that some guys bought it for 200 bucks already totaled with no title. They drove it up there with another rig following them and they just beat the hell out of it, rolled it, smashed it against a tree and it finally died. They towed it back out to 109, took the tag off it, beat the rest of the windows out of it, left the keys in the ignition and ditched. Granted, yes this was a dick move and I don't condone any person to act like such a fool. The rangers were out there late Saturday afternoon and saw it, they knew it was there and it was to my understanding that it was going to be towed on Sunday. Throughout the course of Saturday night people came by and took parts, gas tank got dropped (because it had a full tank of gas), someone came and took both driveshafts..etc etc.

I will not elaborate or argue this "issue" any further. But thanks again to the guys that actually know me and my personality.

So can we get back to keeping this thread about how YOU got YOUR rig off the trail, and help give all of us a nice guideline of what we can do in case something breaks?